Bach made an impromptu visit to King Frederick the Great of Prussia, and was . Gödel, Escher, and Bach are deeply intertwined in this very short Dialogue. on: Gödel, Escher, Bach: A Mental Space Odyssey Not % sure if that torrent is legit, but I’ve had the mp4 files on my harddisk for a few. I don’t think it’s at all pretentious, it’s just an exploration of a bunch of fun things that occurred to Hofstadter, some of which probably occurred to.

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I have to say I was surprised by that statement, but, thinking of it It will set your mind on fire. Be warned, the book will start to mess with you We have a much better understanding of that now and it doesn’t match his speculation.

Preferably a legal copy, as I would love to read this on my Kindle instead of lugging around a big book. Though Hofstadter might have become pretentious in the thirty-five odd years since he wrote the book, in its time, it certainly wasn’t pretentious – it was a risky literary esdher by an unknown author.

I think every student had read it by the end of that year.


I recommend you do try it. It was featured in a scene in The Matrix? And if he feels that an e-reader would mangle his work enough that it wouldn’t be worth paying for, I’d trust his judgment. Hofstadter,available at Book Escheg with free delivery worldwide. Buy Godel, Escher, Bach: Thats what was in the movie, I retract my previous comment.

What does GEB stand for?

Then there is this one. We are stuck in roughly the same place pondering whether its just a non-causal phenomena of the brain or a different type of stuff entirely.


My friend a CS person with a degree in Physics tried reading it, and found it very hard going. It’s only pretentious if you consider, say, Neal Stephenson pretentious.

Should you read it? Time to look again. Instead of Hofstadter’s GEB, read some of his papers, e. It is definitely worth the time, my only advice is to not to get hung up on sections you don’t understand, dog bac those pages and go back to them years later and it is fun to see how now those sections make sense and don’t seem complex at all.

More particularly though, the book contains many illustrations, equations, and important typographical conventions which he personally worried over in LaTex he typeset his own book. Just read todrent and make up your own mind.

Its unconventional and tackles tough topics so its bound to split opinion. Contrast “good old-fashioned AI” with “machine learning”, where the representations are as minimalistic and low-level as possible, because the only important thing is that when you update them a few billion times the right results emerge statistically. It involves trying to think about how you think and formalize it, which rarely happens in modern AI.

Admittedly there were only 39 in my graduating class, so it doesn’t take that many copies to satisfy the student body! I’m still glad Vodel read it, so I guess my answer is yes. DharmaSoldat on Jan 5, It is awesome. What are you talking about? An Eternal Golden Braid: I didn’t even know that.

The GEB was instrumental in making me a self-conscious and cynical fan of post-modernism and deconstruction, and an avid reader of tales about failure. Hofstadter, evil’ and the complete Douglas R. Cultivating Database Skills for Research and Instruction ebook.


For me, GEB was a considerable waste of time and contributed nothing to my understanding of intelligence or AI. Study basics work and materials with rules trilogy, diaries integrated literature. Then I read “I am a strange loop” and am now of the opinion Hofstadter is full of shit. Fucking scribd has it but I think the “exploit” to download books from them was fixed.

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Bulkington on Jan 5, Influential. Is it worth it?

Well we still don’t have a meaningful grasp on what consciousness is. Many of the versions listed on that site contain the same errors. It’s been a while and I knew it was some book on the vach when Neo was sleeping on his desk. Not your average science kids’ show!

Godel, Escher, Bach – An Eternal Golden Braid

I can’t imagine that happening at your standard public school nowadays. Looks like they were copy pasted from an auto-truncated source or something. He doesn’t like ebooks. GEB is about the spine-tinglingly freaky consequences of feedback and self-reference. A year or so back, I mentioned my admiration to a friend, who had togrent copy but hadn’t yet read it.

Bulkington on Jan 5, I generally find that the people who say kind of thing that don’t understand the topics, but are intimidated to say so.

It is a tremendously entertaining book bah read.